Wednesday, December 28, 2005

REPUBLICAN VS DEMOCRAT

I tried to make just one of my points to a conservative by given him the information to prove just why he was wrong. He didnt' take time to read the facts, the references that I gave.
If you read my last post, you will see just how long it is, and normally I dont post that much information. I thought that by just this one subject being long enough and the possibilty that he would not read it all. I would stop there and see what would happen.
Well let me tell you, this conservative lived up to par, by telling me that I was dumb, incapable of understanding him or explaining myself.
I'll just list our comments and let you enjoy. This started when I posted; JUST WHAT ARE CONSERVATIVES WATCHING AND LISTENING TO OUT THERE.



CONSERVATIVE COMMENT:

You just figured out that we are in a war...I guess you don't miss anything.
The majority of causalities are being caused by terrorists and insurgents. Do you know how many deaths and murders and rapes occur in America? And we're not even in a war zone. Do you know how many people died in the tsunami last year? 200,000 people died. Do you get the picture now? Do you know how many people died under Saddam Hussein? No, no one does because mass graves are still being discovered; another one was discovered yesterday. SO according to you it was OK for Saddam to kill hundreds of thousands of people torture hundreds of thousands of people but when 30,000 people die in an attempt to establish a democratic state, then you get upset. Listen your fake conviction and selective outrage only proves that your disdain for Bush blinds you to reality and turns all accomplishments into nothing. Where was your feigned outrage when Hussein was torturing hundreds of thousands of people and committing genocide? Answer me that? All of a sudden death shocks you... go with the sheep my friend because you stand for nothing but weak attacks on a President
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I next posted in reference to his comment; GET THE FACTS


COSERVATIVE COMMENT:

Thanks for stopping by but you dodged the questions and you passed blame onto Rumsfeld for Saddam Hussein gassing Iran. It's typical but it's still a dodge. You have a very interesting way to look at the world. Fighting the spread of communism was the wrong thing to do? French President Chirac met with Saddam as well as top French officials to allow Saddam to steal from the Iraqi poor. They encouraged Saddam to continue as is because they would veto any UN resolution for war. Blame Reagan, Bush, Clinton, America but not Saddam. That’s very typical and frankly not worth my time. You have yet to make a point and you have yet to make sense. Maybe you could answer the questions but I doubt it.


MY COMMENT:

Your logic amaze me. If you would have clicked on to the sites I reference, most of your statement would not be necessary. Anyone who read the reference would know that Rumsfeld is not all to blame. Reagan, other countries and the American people who, didn't raise a voice, not even now, are also to blame. Saddam is guilty of his crimes and should be punished by a court of Law. But, when our administration is guilty, shouldn't they to be judged. I mean you judged Clinton on lying to a Grand Jury. You seem to be stuck on death and other countries and not seeing what our country has done. You sound like my kids, trying to blame the others wrong doing to justify theirs. Wake up, America is not innocent. Yes death occur all around us everyday, that's life. Sometimes nature is the cause and sometimes other people are the cause of many deaths for many reasons and when that happens we all as a people of the human race should pull together and help others- affected by natures events, accidental and through a court of law, judge others who have violated or caused deaths and punish them in what ever way agreed to. There's a song that says Lord you came from Heaven to the Earth just to show us the way and I just feel that we as a human race have not found that way. I've had my share of Military Service and just as others and possibly you, I've seen my share of death. I believe that if there's a reason for a war, then find. Bring it on, but when there's no reason, then dont.We cant go around the world overthrowing a leader or a dictator, because he is wrong or doing his people wrong. If that is the case then Iran, China and a lot of other countries should be on our list.It's kind of funny, but most of the people who feel that we should go to war for this or that, are the people who have never seen combat or got out of serving when they had the chance.Now I find that most college student today, who are for this war are not in line to sign up to fight as others. If you can say that you believe in this or that, then go fight for this or that, be it a war or what ever.

1 comment:

Opinionnation said...

I know my history.

Over 70 percent of the military in Iraq voted for President Bush. They are in this war and most are of college age. I never said America is blameless. You can't complain about death if your willing to accept North Korea's genocide and if your are willing to accept that of Iran. If you don't realize the strategic importance of Iraq then that's on you to figure out. During the time America backed Iraq we were fighting the spread of communism while ensuring our strategic interests. For you to lump that in your argument mischaracterizes the goal and misleads people.

You want Saddam punished in a court of law. But there was only one way to get him into a court of law. You can't say, yes he's evil and he should be punished but I didn't support removing him. That doesn't make sense. You're either accepting of his genocide or not.